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PostSubject: Kaokai training   Wed Sep 24, 2008 5:49 am

Im assuming this was lost in the chaos so here it goes again

For kaokaii suggest the training be something similar to the unique experience Bankai training is.


Bankai you fought against your manifestation so for kaokai i recommend fight with you manifestation.

So it would be for example Asuma and Kinimaro vs Ichigo and Zangetsu.

the shinigami would have access to their entire technique arsenal with a hitch. Bankai techs would have to be used in tandem (as a team) because the shinigame cannot enter the normal bankai state.

so for example ill be using my tech Tears From a Torn Sky

*Kinimaro launches a concentrated orb of blood and dark matter into the sky. Asuma flings one of his fangs, speeding it up with reiatsu fed through the chains. The two connect and the orb explodes. Spears of dark matter and solidified blood begin to rain from the sky.*
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PostSubject: Re: Kaokai training   Wed Sep 24, 2008 5:52 am

Interesting...very interesting.
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PostSubject: Re: Kaokai training   Wed Sep 24, 2008 5:54 am

Fighting with your your manifestation once more would only be a waste of time since you've unlocked its true power..Kaokai is a matter of bonding with your zanpaktou physically and mentally so it's different..plus it has to be through battle and frequent use of abilities,etc to further commune with it. It would technically be the same thing..only matter is that you would bond with your zanpaktou in the real world, so it's similiar to the method that Kira and I developed..
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PostSubject: Re: Kaokai training   Wed Sep 24, 2008 5:57 am

I'm the only exception...I bond with my zanpakuto through SOULS!! MUWAHAHHAHAHAHAAA!!! And fights too...but it's more of a revelation then a true attinments because technically Leon already has all his powers (That's why he used to be A Legendary Seven member)...just doesn't use em.
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PostSubject: Re: Kaokai training   Wed Sep 24, 2008 6:08 am

Amatsu Kusari wrote:
Fighting with your your manifestation once more would only be a waste of time since you've unlocked its true power..Kaokai is a matter of bonding with your zanpaktou physically and mentally so it's different..plus it has to be through battle and frequent use of abilities,etc to further commune with it. It would technically be the same thing..only matter is that you would bond with your zanpaktou in the real world, so it's similiar to the method that Kira and I developed..

This system would make Kaokai different from a normal battle
atm the guidelines say 5-6 page fight which by the end you must have bonded with your zanpaktou

Bankai training wasnt bonding it was dominating

Fighting along side your manifestation would allow you to become more in sync with their motions, personality, and philosophy. Also frequent use of abilities in battle is a normal battle. Personally i dont find the current guidelines different from saying

Fight til page 5 then say how much you love your zanpaktou.
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PostSubject: Re: Kaokai training   Wed Sep 24, 2008 6:38 am

Asuma listen..I didn't say Bankai training was bonding..and besides, there's technically no difference in what i've said, but you must be in bankai for you to become more in tune with your zanpaktou in real time..so it doesn't really matter at this point.
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PostSubject: Re: Kaokai training   Wed Sep 24, 2008 8:04 am

i like it, it seems like a good idea
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PostSubject: Re: Kaokai training   Wed Sep 24, 2008 8:07 am

I AGREE!
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PostSubject: Re: Kaokai training   Wed Sep 24, 2008 8:10 am

Very Happy I think itll be one of those once in a life time fights because everyone will be using Banaki techs revamped to use both you and your manifestation
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PostSubject: Re: Kaokai training   Wed Sep 24, 2008 8:10 am

It's a good idea if I say so myself, where Bankai is to dominate your Zanpakuto, Kaokai is to bond with your Zanpakuto, in both instances, they make you strong, you have my vote in this.
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PostSubject: Re: Kaokai training   Wed Sep 24, 2008 8:13 am

same here, the bonding has my vote, the way I can bond with my zanpaktou I will be able to use my full potential in a fight, hehe look out Mical!
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PostSubject: Re: Kaokai training   Wed Sep 24, 2008 8:24 am

Well Kaokai was always bonding my suggestion is just to change the way you achieve that bond
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PostSubject: Re: Kaokai training   Wed Sep 24, 2008 8:32 am

Normally..i'd probably agree, but you'd have to be at your fullest to Achieve Kaokai while you fight with your zanpaktou/bankai as Kira said. Now during this matter, all you're doing is stating at certain points how your zanpaktou spirit is becoming more and more apart of the outside world beyond the blade to become one with you as the battle drags on.
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PostSubject: Re: Kaokai training   Wed Sep 24, 2008 8:38 am

But you are at your best while doing this just differently than usual. You dont appear to be in Bankai but you are just in a different way
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PostSubject: Re: Kaokai training   Wed Sep 24, 2008 8:38 am

Like I said..Kira thought of this..
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PostSubject: Re: Kaokai training   Wed Sep 24, 2008 8:41 am

ok thats fine

suggestions forums is for just what im doing: Asking the admins to change/add/delete something we as users feel would make the site better.

this is my opinion so if anyone else has anything to add to my format this is where we will polish it and present it to kira. Also for those of you who are arrancar or bounto feel free to make a similar thread and i will help polish your ideas:D
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PostSubject: Re: Kaokai training   Wed Sep 24, 2008 8:44 am

I am fine with my Bountou abilities, not sure about the others though.
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PostSubject: Re: Kaokai training   Wed Sep 24, 2008 8:45 am

I think something similar to this for arracar and DEF something new for quincy


for quincy maibe channeling an ancestors spirit?
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PostSubject: Re: Kaokai training   Wed Sep 24, 2008 8:52 am

Mhm, sounds like a Quincy like ability to me.
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PostSubject: Re: Kaokai training   Wed Sep 24, 2008 8:56 am

its a bit shamanistic but i think it fits the whole quincy vibe.

Another option could be a drug induced coma type thing. They do stuff like this in tribes.

Of course wed use sumthing other than drugs....
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PostSubject: Re: Kaokai training   Wed Sep 24, 2008 9:17 am

Maybe they would use reiatsu or something like that instead.
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PostSubject: Re: Kaokai training   Wed Sep 24, 2008 9:30 am

Im not so sure how arrancar get their version of Bankai, do they even have one?

As for the endless mask for vaizards maybe fighting a hollow version of their manifestation...idk sounds a bit weak but something along those lines.


also one question.

Can Vaizards obtain both kaokai and endless mask? or is it one or the other or just mask
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PostSubject: Re: Kaokai training   Wed Sep 24, 2008 9:48 am

can you explain the new quincy thing to me i dont feel like reading it
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PostSubject: Re: Kaokai training   Wed Sep 24, 2008 9:51 am

were thinking about changing th training method for achieving senrei unison to channeling an ancestor spirit
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PostSubject: Re: Kaokai training   Wed Sep 24, 2008 9:52 am

oh kk
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